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daisy
Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:55:39 AM
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My supervisor doesn't know I'd like to find a new job, and I'd prefer not to tell her.

There's a job I'm very interested in that requires me to list four references, one of which must be my current supervisor.

She and I don't have a bad relationship, but it's not the best either. Any suggestions for handling this with care? Thanks.
bcgray
Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:04:30 PM

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You have several options:
1. Talk to your supervisor so someone else does not tell her first.
2. List "references upon request". Even though some organizations may toss your application if you do not fill out an application completely.
3. Explain the the hiring organization that you prefer someone not contact your supervisor until the hiring process gets to the point of near a job offer.

Be warned people do talk. It may get leaked backed to your supervisors anyways. I have also head of organizations that called and asked to speak to someone's supervisor, even if it is not listed.

Brian C. Gray
Head of Reference & Engineering Librarian
Kelvin Smith Library
Case Western Reserve University
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AngelaS
Posted: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:35:54 PM
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"Be warned people do talk" - what do they talk about? Why ask for the applicant to give references if the committee is doing their own version of reference checking outside of what was asked for and supplied? This seems unprofessional and unfair. Why wouldn't committees respect the process they designed? They set an expectation for the applicant, but what should the applicant really expect?
bcgray
Posted: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:12:27 PM

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AngelaS wrote:
"Be warned people do talk" - what do they talk about? Why ask for the applicant to give references if the committee is doing their own version of reference checking outside of what was asked for and supplied? This seems unprofessional and unfair. Why wouldn't committees respect the process they designed? They set an expectation for the applicant, but what should the applicant really expect?

Checking references and talking to a supervisor are very different conversations. Some organizations call or talk to supervisors whether they are listed or not. The point of references is that you provide people that can acknowledge the work you did, and from your view are often very positive. Often talking to supervisor is to discuss the employee-supervisor relationship. In many organizations, only a supervisor is even given the permission to speak to the questions asked when checking a reference.

When I said "be warned people to talk", I was talking about informal conversations as well. We are a very small and open profession. People strike up conversations about who is hiring, who is looking, etc. at meeting, conferences, in passing, etc.

I have never seen an application anywhere that say "we will only call the references you list". That expectation seems not justified by the hiring process. Maybe I never had such expectations because working the corporate world I know there is no such expectations. Supervisors, instructors, HR people, etc. can and are called. People that know people ask about candidates informally as well.

It goes both ways. I know I received the interview for my position because someone from my past organization put in a cold, unsolicited call on my behalf from administrator to administrator.

Brian C. Gray
Head of Reference & Engineering Librarian
Kelvin Smith Library
Case Western Reserve University
http://blog.case.edu/bcg8
bcg8@case.edu
joan
Posted: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:18:15 PM
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I know of a couple of cases where people's applications have gotten noticed because of a helpful call from a colleague. For example: a friend of mine was applying for a position at a library, and I happened to know that another good friend of mine worked at that library. So I let Friend 2 know that Friend 1 was fantastic. Friend 2 communicated this to the search committee, and Friend 1 got an interview.

This sort of thing happens all the time. My first job out of library school came about through some informal contacts during a formal process (basically, a friend communicated to the search committee that I had been offered another job, so they made me an offer more quickly than they might have otherwise).

This is why people always talk about how important it is to do the dreaded networking thing.
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