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Lib2008
Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:25:09 AM
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Hi,

I have been a Librarian and Manager for over 9 years (actually more than that if you count way back to college :)) but anyway. I was going to be interviewed for a position at a public library. I had agreed to travel out of state, take a day off of work, reserve a hotel room, stay overnight, interview and then go back home. This is at least a six hour drive for me. The director of this library then emailed me a few days ago and asked since a candidate had dropped out and she was going on vacation soon (that next week) if I would do a phone interview for that Friday during the day. I am still working and told her we were not well staffed that week (and it was only one day's notice) so would it be possible to do it after 5? I do not have a one hour lunch break at my present job otherwise I would have gladly taken the time to do the interview and given up my lunch. She said fine how about 5:15? so the time was set.

I rushed home and waited. No phone call. Cell phone was on, home phone was working. Finally checked my email hours later since I didn't want to be a pest and call and there was an email from this director stating that they had interviewed a candidate the day before who had "wowed them" and they were ready to say "you're hired" but knew they still needed to interview me. I have years of experience and 5 years of management experience and 2 years of experience in the position they were hiring for. Apparently the candidate they had interviewed the day before called and said she had been offered a job someplace else and didn't want to take it if she was going to be offered the position I was also interviewing for so the director offered her the job without even interviewing me and just sent me an email about this and said "Sorry".

Now when I did hiring (and firing) I always interviewed all candidates even when I think I found "the one" and had others to still interview. To be that is just business protocol. Plus you never know when someone else you interview might be a good candidate until you meet them. Also if a candidate were to call me and present me with the same scenerio (I was offered a job someplace but don't want to take it unless I get this job) I would not just offer them the job, I would tell them I still have other candidates to interview and should be wrapping it up in a day. Unfortantely that is there decision to make. If I were the candidate in that position I would have just asked the library that offered me the job could I please think about the position and get back to them in a few days? If I felt the need to find out the status of the hiring process at the other library I most interested in I might contact the director and ask when a decision would be made, would it be in the next few days?

Is it me or was this unprofessional? I realize some libraries do this and that some libraries are worse and just interview people when the position is already filled but I just find this unprofessional. What makes this even more complicated is I vaguely knew this director years ago when we worked at the same library and she was a reference librarian. We were not friends, we really did not work togther, just talked from time to time about her divorce at that time. I wasn't sure if it was her and asked her as such in my email to her against my better judgement (I thought I recognized the name but I had just seen her at a library conference and recognized her and saw her new name and the library she was working at- my gut told me not too and I should have listened to it) because now I think she thinks I see it as a personal thing. Honestly I barely knew her and it was over 7 years ago and would expect her to remove that from the equation. I would have no problem with not being hired if I had been interviewed because who knows who else applied? Someone with 15 years of experience and 8 years of management experience who is fantasic okay fine. But if you set up interviews should you at least keep them? I did as a manager because I was always surprised by who I met and it wasn't always what was on paper and I once even had a sitution where a co-worker's daughter applied for a position and did not hire her so I can be objective. Can't other managers?

Would you speak to a trustee member about this?




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bcgray
Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:02:27 PM

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It seems like a strange situation. While it may seem unprofessional, you never know all the details. There may be other things in play from the organization's perspective you are unaware of. I would not assume it was all about you.

I am not sure what contacting a trustee would accomplish. It seems like it would only alienate you further from that organization and anyone involved in this process.

Brian C. Gray
Head of Reference & Engineering Librarian
Kelvin Smith Library
Case Western Reserve University
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Rachel
Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:54:22 PM

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I wouldn't contact a trustee either -- I'd chalk it up to fate; if they're that unprofessional, it's probably not an environment in which you'd be comfortable working in any case.



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Hollis
Posted: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:38:44 AM
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I agree--don't call. I would like to say I have never heard of such unprofessional behavior, but I have also heard of and have experienced similar experiences. Some in libraries, and also in other professions. Yes, it is unprofessional. Be glad you are not working there!
Madeline Fabray
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:02:32 AM
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I would just let the past lie, and thank my lucky stars for dodging a bullet. I would not want to work for an entity that pulled such shenanigans.
Lib2008
Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 6:35:59 PM
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Hi everyone,
Thank you for your input and perspective. I just wanted to make sure that my perspective was not off the mark in feeling that it was unprofessional behavior and by posting it here to everyone it would be more neutral since people here were not directly involved. Yes I am glad that I am not working there.

Cheers!
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